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Hi All - hauled out today :-(... and getting my list of winter jobs together. Looking for some advise on a few...
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<li>Kenyon Stove Refurbish - still have the original stove and its in good shape but something is up with the pressure. Heard you could get them 'refurbished'...anyone know where?</li>
<li>Lights (Anchor, Steaming, Running) - all have been intermittent the past few years. Would like to replace the stern fixture and rewire/replace on the mast. Is that a pretty simple DIY job (and if so where to get parts)...and if not - can anyone recommend a pro?</li>
<li>Battery Charger - have what I assume to be a standard 2 - 12V system and thinking of adding a charger for dock side (where the kids keep me way too much). Same question as in number 2 above.</li>
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Thanks,
Rob.
Rob Nicholson
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I rewired Towser completely several years ago and it's not hard, but it's fiddly. First, though, make sure that you need to. Many electrical problems are caused by corrosion of terminals and the wire/terminal joint. Clean the terminals and mounting blocks with 220 or 400 wet/dry paper until you see bright metal. Test.
Rewiring a mast is straightforward. Measure (twice) to the masthead and to the steaming light, giving yourself at least a foot of extra at the top and two feet at the bottom. As originally wired, you would have had a masthead, spreader and steaming/bow light. This may be a good time to add a tricolour if you want one - or think you might one day. Follow the colour coding in your manual (and of course, if you don't have a manual, remember that Association members are offered a .pdf of the manual - unique in that it is searchable [end of commercial]). For simplicity, run a full-length black (negative) wire to the masthead and to the steaming light - don't try to make one do double duty.
Finish at the bottom by joining the two black wires into one, then bundle the wires and cover them with shrinkable tubing (the stuff that shrinks tightly over the wire when heated). Buy a good-quality plug and socket to join the wires to the boat. I have an AquaSignal plug that's about $40, which is ridiculous, but it works well; crappy plugs can be the weak link in an otherwise good wiring job. Alternatively, clean up the old plug carefully. Also, I put solder on the tips of the wire where they mate to the plug; it's absurdly time-consuming but it minimizes corrosion.
Any of the materials you need for this job are available at Genco, West or possibly Dock Shoppe. Marine wire is expensive, but don't buy cheap stuff; automotive terminals seem to be okay but make sure you buy the right sizes. Buy a wire stripper, soldering iron (if you're going to put solder on the ends) and terminal crimper; they will make the job easier and much better (you cannot strip wire properly with a pen-knife or pliers, or at least I can't). You can buy these and shrink tubing, including some really tough stuff made originally for Ont. Hydro, at Active Surplus on Queen West. Practise using them on a short length of wire before going to the real thing.
Adding a battery charger means adding shore power if you don't have it already; if you need advice about the advisability of DC wiring, you should not be doing AC wiring, particularly on a boat.
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A slight digression - thinking about electricity prompted me to add an inexpensive but really worthwhile tool to the <a href="../../fixes/sparestools.html">Tools & spare parts</a> list in Black Arts.
Who to suggest if you don't want to do this yourself? First, you have to find someone competent. As I said, wiring the mast isn't hard, but it should be done carefully and neatly (neat is a reasonable beginning gauge of quality - messy wiring is almost always bad wiring). Then you have to find someone who will come to QCYC. Can you ask around the club for anyone who has had something done recently? That should kill both birds. Good luck.
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
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Thanks Dave - appreciate the advice. She does have shore power - but maybe I'll just leave the charger to a pro. BTW - I found by contacting Kenyon that they'll do a complete rebuild on the stove for me. Just got pack it ups and send it to them.
Rob.
Rob Nicholson
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Rob. Do you have contact info for Kenyon? I've been thinking about either getting mine refurbishished / fixed or replaced (it's completely non functional). Thanks. Greg
Greg Tokarz, Nepenthe, C&C 27 Mk1, Hull #73
Greg Tokarz,
Nepenthe, C&C 27 Mk1, Hull #73
National Yacht Club, Toronto
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Hey Greg,
I sent an email in to customercare 'AT' kenyonappliances.com an got a quick reply from Frank Palmieri. He directed me to Bill at Shortwave Marine Electronics in Port Credit - thoug I haven't connected with him yet. Apparently with some stoves the parts are in short supply. Mine's a Model 206 ('79ish I suppose) and seems to have what's needed available.
So if Bill can get the parts I'll probably have him do the job...if not, ship it to Kenyon.
Rob.
Rob Nicholson
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Sorry I'm late chiming in! When I bought Mad Carew about 6 years ago, the stove was top priority for making coffee for my wife!! (nothing else other than the head really mattered to her). I telephoned Kenyon (in New Jersey I think) to order rebuild parts. I got about halfway through the list of parts and the very helpful lady I was speaking to (the Kenyon expert on my 30 yr. old stove) spoke up and said the cost of the parts I was ordering had already exceeded the cost of a complete factory overhaul that includes all necessary parts. I packed up the whole stove and shipped it to them, and in about 4 weeks I got it back looking and working just like brand new. All for much less than the cost of the various parts I needed to do it myself. The lady I had spoken with even followed up with a phone call to let me know she had personally bench tested my stove (made herself a pot of coffee) before allowing it to be shipped back to me. I have rarely been more impressed with customer service.
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Hi Rob,
As far as the stove goes, i'd higly reccomend replacing the stove with an origo non-pressurized stove. i found one on kijiji used for about $150 with the cutting board, and have been very happy with it, especially when it came time to starting it - no more danger of flames shooting up! Also, no maitenance reqired.
Equinauta 1973 C&C 27 Mk II #323
superbrightleds.com has drop in led 1142 x 15 that finally fit in my nav fixtures. first only had white red and amber<img src="emoticons/icon_question.gif" alt="" /> i got white and red. worked excellent, as bright if not brighter than 10w incandescents, not sure if they're coast guard certified. they have a nice pure color glow about them. white is cool, but not as blue as expected. wrote and asked them if they would/could get them in green. they responded favorably, said in 6 weeks, i received them a few weeks ago, after the winter haul. i'm looking forward to cutting my undersail night power consumption by 1000% if my math is close. at $7-10 ea., sure beats the $100's that some vendors offer for replacement fixtures.
my stove woudn't pump to pressure, coleman lantern spare kit at hardware store contained the proper sized replacement pump gasket.
Installed xantrex 10tb charger for few weeks in early/late season when i have access to shore power before heading out to mooring. tops off battery great, 3 stage. not so effective now as I've put a 40w solar panel on the companionway hatch cover last year. never attached to shore power this year. batteries are always @ 100% now. considering a matched pair of gel's or glassmats to top off the system. almost want to drop a size from the 24 to save weight and money, but i don't dare
sorry to have dodged your actual questions, but felt obligated to offer the insight
i drink my coffee from an atomic 4 mug
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