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found the keel nabber police arested him but not before it was cut up!
i got a keel from a 25' hunter and was thinking of making a adapter plate to make it fit c&c
any ideas
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Yes - get the thief to make restitution (in other words, buy you a new keel for a 27). In return, you'll accept that there might be a possibility that he made an honest mistake and thought it was abandoned. In other words, new keel = no charges or at worst a slap on the wrist.
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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David,
Very considerate, but I disagree. Such reaction fosters more. Nail him and have the court order restitution, he knew he was stealing.
Warren Smith (AKA Tropical Warren)
Serendipity
Galveston Bay, Texas
The question you have to ask yourself is, do you want vengeance - or do you want the keel back in a reasonable period of time? Making restitution right now is going to cost the thief four or five thousand dollars, minimum, which is not a bad punishment altogether, plus it gets our boy his keel back toot sweet. Plus there's the certainty aspect. A trial can go either way:
Trial judge (18 months from now): "He stole a what?"
Prosecuting attorney: "A keel, m'lud."
Trial judge: "That's a dirty great lump of lead sort of thingy that hangs on the bottom of a boat, isn't it? And it was just lying on the ground? Down in the docks?"
Prosecuting attorney: "Yes, m'lud."
Trial judge: "Sounds more like a public nuisance than private property. Sort of sounds like he was doing everyone a favour by removing it."
Defence attorney: "M'lud, my client happened upon this dirty great lump of lead lying about in a public place, and seeing his duty to remove a threat to the environment that has been implicated in health issues among minorities in this great nation of ours, took it upon himself, at great labour and expense, to remove this dire and present threat to a place of safety."
Trial judge (suddenly remembering proximity of election date): "I'm all for protecting the health of minority children in this great nation of ours. The thanks of the court are extended to the defendant. On the other hand, this man over here left a dirty great lump of hazardous material lying around where minority children would be harmed by it? Take him out and shoot him."
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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So is it now appropriate to say..."Old Hunters never die they just recycle their keels?"
After giving this some thought, overcoming the bolt hole alignment and making adapter fit both the stubby and the new keel with a fair joint sounds like a monster job. The height of the adapter would have to provide enough space to tighten the bolts on the keel side of the joint. Without seeing both keel and stubby it is hard to make a firm suggestion. Also the total weight needs to be as close to the original as possible. Conceivably a two plates spaced a few inches apart could form the top and bottom sides of the adapter then fair the whole thing with wrap of fiberglass. But that is Rube Goldberg at his best. </SPAN>
</SPAN>So where all this is going is that it may really be worth it to make the other guy pay to have a new keel cast. I don't know any thing about the case against this guy and don't really know law (just a bunch of attorneys) so predicting the outcome is tough. Personally I'd talk to the prosecuting attorney and see what his ideas are. He'll know enough about the defendant and the court to tell you what to expect.</SPAN>
Mike M
SV Wind Horse
#375
Galveston, Tx
Mike M
SV Wind Horse
#375
Galveston, Tx
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WIGMAN, don't even consider changing to a Hunter keel without some serious consultation time with a naval architect. It's not as simple as making an adaptor plate and bolting it on...
There's questions of balance and structure to be considered. Old C&C's have that reasonably unique sharkfin keel shape - anything else will have a big impact on balance and handling under sail, and will become a big factor if you ever want to resell the boat.
And David, it looks like you've spent too much time listening to LJB's "Don't Try to Lay no Boogie Woogie on The King of Rock and Roll"! Always loved the courtroom scene!!
Cheers,
Tal ../)../)..
Critical Path
1976 Mark III #632
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