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I've purchased a Harken Furling System Unit 0; one of the sail shops has advised me that I will require a halyard restrainer to prevent halyard wrap because of the small angle between the forestay and mast.
I am curious about the experience of other 27 owners as to the need for a halyard restrainer.
Thanks,
B. Peever
I have an Harken roller furling system on my boat and I do not have a halyard wrap prevention device.. I have seen them on other boats and I had asked my sailmaker about them.... he commented that if you keep your upper block well lubricated you do not need it, thus it has been several years and I have not had a single problem with the halyard. Having said that, he also recommended that I bring my spinnaker halyard back around the upper shroud and down to the spinnaker pole loop to keep it from tangling with the top of the jib and the upper block.
Hope this helps,
"IRIS"
C&C 27 Mk lll, 1975
Hull No 453
Kittery Point, Maine
Two recommendations were given to me: 1. a restrainer and 2. a strop between the head of the sail and the swivel, the strop to be just long enough that the swivel is just below full hoist with maximum tension on the luff. The latter does the trick so the restrainer has not been needed.
Occasionally, we have tangles with the spi halyard, but that only happens when it has been eased. It also helps to minimize protrusions from shackle pins, either by using shackles that have screw-head pins, or by taping everything over. The less to snag the halyard the better.
Furling is easier with middling tension on the luff and the backstay eased.
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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I'm curious what luff length MkIII sailers are using with their furling systems. I think that the previous owner had a #1 cut down a little for use on the Ultrafurl that I have, but I can't ever really get it high enough to give good luff tension. When I really reef on the halyard I get all sorts of problems with the furler, including halyard wrap. I'm thinking I need a sail that is about 6" shorter in the luff? Any ideas?
Chris (Mad Carew)
I installed a Hood 707 headsail furler on my 27 MkV and also used a halyard restrainer. It is a good idea. Many years ago I had a C&C 24 with a Harken RF and no halyard restrainer, and halyard wraps were a frequent problem. I didn't know any better at the time; it was just frustrating. I would recommend being careful where you place the restrainer; too high on the mast and it may not do it's job, too low and the angle the halyard pulls against the forestay when the sail is fully raised may be too sharp.
I have a Furlex system and yes, a hallyard guide would be handy because the halyard does wrap sometimes. It can be controlled by making sure the halyard is good and tight before you attempt to furl but a guide would be better.
We are actually furling the sail on the spinnaker run to the leeward leg and it works fine, is less hassle for the foredeck crew and results in less errors up front.
Regrding the spinnaker halyard, we had our rigging shop fashion a stainless "bale" which is fastened to the top of the mast. The purpose is to push the halyard and shackle further out and away from the furling system. Works beautifully. Then we lead the halyard back and inside the mast down to the deck. One rope less cluttering up the mast at the working level.
Fred
If I understand you correctly, you have
<ul><li>the chute halyard on a block on the standard masthead crane;
<li>the chute halyard led into the mast at some point below the masthead sheaves and exiting somewhere lower down where the mast-man can get at it;
<li>something that resembles a boom bail reaching out from the mast, above the furling swivel, over which the halyard runs, that keeps the halyard away from the furler. </ul>
Izzat right? Sounds like a good idea. Don't perchance have a photo, do you?
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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Fred
Do you have picture or sketch of the stainless steel bail and how you attached it to mast head and sent it back into mast. I need to do same on my boat.
Regards
Cameron
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Hi - just trolling through some old postings and happened upon this sagely advise. I fitted a Furlex on my MkIII last year spring and left the spinnaker (and rigging) in the bag for the season because I couldn't figure out how to set it up so's it wouldn't wrap. Sounds like you've solved for it - but I only have til next Saturday to learn and adapt.
Did the pictures of this 'fix' ever get circulated?
Rob Nicholson
1979 MkIII <IMG src="http://www.cc27association.com/f3/toast/emoticons/icon_lol.gif" border=0>
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