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Hi
A friend at my club sails a 27 Mk V, and I now find my self interested in purchasing one.
Wanted to know what key things to look for - i am looking at a 1985 and 1986 model in the next few weeks, and want to make sure I check on the typical areas to check on these boats.
Thanks
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What to look for in purchasing a Mark V? Good question, I was in your situation 3-4 years ago. Had decided that the boat I want'd was Mark V, I liked the looks of the boat and it suited my needs for club racing and limited cruising for 2 - 4 people for occasional weekends. I started talking to Mark V owners that I knew and my past experiance in dealing with mid 70's to mid 80's boats. Travelled the upper US East coast and the Canadian Meritimes (I live in the Toronto area) looking at Mark V's that were for sale at the time. I borrowed a moisture meter from a friend of mine and used it extensively as I was going over the boats I looked at.
Most of the Mark V's out there are in pretty good shape, unless a previous owner has been neglegant in their upkeep. Look for excessive spider cracking in the cockpit floor area and around the cockpit combings, traveller track recess. Look for excessive cracking in the area where the cabin trunk meets the deck and in the water runways along the toe rail. The most moisture problems seem to occure around the baby stay chainplate egress from the cabin top and water can migrate out from the mast step on the port side of the cabin top and down into the deck around the port main chainplates. This can be due to a lack of attention to the seal around the area where the electrical wireing comes out of the cabin top to attach to the mast. The area around the baby stay can permitt water to enter into the balsa core if the previous owner/s have tried to apply too much tension to the baby stay, it was never intended to take much of a load, it's only there to keep the mast from "pumping" when beating to windward in heavy air and seas.
A close inspection of the forward mid bulkhead (at the aft end of the "V" berth) will give some clues as to whether the baby stay has leaked, you'll be able to see discolouration of the wood. The other area to look closely at is the bottom of the main bulkhead (the one that seperates the main cabin from the head area) this bulkhead sits in a recess in the floor pan and if water has been allowed to sit in the recess the end grain of the plywood will absorb the water and the bulkhrad will begin to rot. Some early boats didn't have a drain hole from the head floor pan into the bilge and water could collect in the head floor and then into the bulkhead recess. The cabin port lights (windows) are another source of leaks and water ingress into the balsa core. These windows (as in most mid 80's C&C's) are a frameless design and are bonded to the cabin trunk with a special silicone type material. Due to the size of the windows they are structural, but they need to be free to "float" in the opening in the cabin side (just like the windshield in your car needs to "float") if the windows have been affixed by screws they will cause no end of problems. If they are currently leaking a competent yard can repair them, but it's expensive and the price you pay for the boat should be adjusted accordingly.
The 27 Mark V is really a pretty simple boat and they were well built, there isn't much that can go wrong (nothing that can't be fixed with $$$ that is). Find a boat you like, make an offer subject to survey, buy it and go have fun.
Where do you plan on sailing it?
Steve
Still Knot Working MkV #75
I recently purchased a Mark V, and the surveyor noted the port chainplate being pulled up as noted in the other reply. Had it rebedded, along with new standing rigging. Also, babystay is pulled up as noted in the other reply also, but doesn't appear to leak (am watching it) so I just don't tension it.
Peg and "Binky"
Peg:
Where do you sail out of?
Am interested in getting in touch with as many Mark V owners as possible.
Steve "Still Knot Working" Mk V #75
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San Diego.
Got Binky out of the yard today, ready to sail. A few things yet I'd like to do eventually but they aren't structural so can wait (had cutlass bearing changed, prop refurbed, starboard chainplate rebedded due to leak, bottom paint). On the "can wait" list: manual pump for overboard for the head, as it only pumps out at deck now, and the through hull is plugged, looks like once was plumbed. I don't want to mess with an electric masserator (run the wiring, or find the old wire, install, fix when it breaks).
Steve, where are you out of?
Peg:
Out of Etobicoke Yacht Club in Toronto. If you are ever going to be in the Toronto area drop a line and if it's when the water is liquid, be happy to take you out for a sail.
Steve
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Hi folks-
Tony Bessinger from Sailing World magazine here. I'm in the process of writing a story about good, used PHRF boats and am including the C&C Mark V on the list.
I'd like to speak to any and all Mk. V owners (or those who plan on buying) who actively race their boats in a handicap fleet. You can reply to my email, tony.bessinger(REMOVE)@sailingworld.com, just take out the (REMOVE).
Thanks,
Tony
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