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Has anyone installed midship cleats. I'm aware of the type that can be bolted to the toerail but am contemplating removing 6-8 inches of the slotted portion of my Mark III's toerail and through-bolting cleats using the existing toerail fasteners. Or is this a bad idea? Thanks in advance.
Ken Pole
Santiva
Ottawa
Ken Pole, Ottawa
1975 Mark III Santiva
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You're going to lose a sheeting option, which you may or may not care about (but that mid-point is just about where you want to put a snatch block on a reach). In addition, midship cleats are notorious for fouling sheets, so you're going to have to concoct some sort of cover that will prevent this.
One of my neighbours had foldup cleats that mount on the deck - I'm sorry I don't know who makes them but all the Toronto stores have them, so your local people probably do, too. You can see them in Black Arts >> Genoa Tracks >> Legacy's tracks 2 (look on the full size pic).
On a purely personal note, I feel that it's not a good idea to make non-reversible changes to a boat like this unless there's a very good reason for it. Anything that makes a boat less of a standard 27 tends to compromise its resale value.
David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
[Later: was at Genco - The flip up cleats are primarily for docks, but the nice thing about them is that because they fold flat, they won't foul your sheets. Also see them here:
http://www.dockedge.com/products/dockaccessories/cleats/2603W-F.asp
Genco prices, 6" $26.95 8" $42.95.]
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David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV
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<IMG src="http://www.cc27association.com/f3/toast/emoticons/icon_neutral.gif" border=0>In defense of the midship cleat--for cruisers and singlehanders: About a hundred years ago I got a tip from a tugboat capt, as follows: The most important cleat on a boat is the midship cleat---the most importan line on a boat is the breast line attached thereto. I've installed them on all my boats 'cept my 27 for reasons David mentioned on his post.
The breast line has a 10-12" eyesplice on the end that goes ashore---about the length of the vessel---and cleated/coiled at your end---and resides in the cockpit with you. During ugly docking conditions---wind, current, etc. you toss the coil as far ashore as you can and kindly ask the person ashore that is giving you advice, to drop the eye over a piling or cleat---thankyou very much. The advantages of having your boat "tethered" midship are obvious. If you have to jump ashore---there is plenty of line there waiting for you--before the boat does something nasty. I make it a point---the first line over is the breast----if you dont need it---its still there---and makes a good spring line, either forward or aft---for those with tides etc-- when securing to the dock. Maybe it doesnt work for all---but it has saved my "self" on many occasions.Dave Tinder
DAWN BREAKER Mk3
Ft Myers
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