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#1 2004-11-23 00:15:21

Guest

Boat ownership history

Is it possible to find out the ownership history of your boat?  I have tried unsuccessfully to obtain this information from Canada Customs for my boat.  The officials say that the names of the previous owners are protected under the Canadian Privacy Act.  Is there another source of this information?  Is this different in the U.S.?

#2 2004-11-23 08:16:51

davidww1
Member

Re: Boat ownership history

I asked a car dealer friend about his situation now that we have the aforementioned privacy laws.

He replied, "Funny thing is I don't even have to go to the Ministry as a Dealer, I can
just run the serial number through the Used Car Dealer Association web site
and it will give me the name, phone number and address of all the previous
owners, so the privacy law does not affect with cars and trucks."

Curious. I wonder if this is a case of over-zealousness on the part of the Customs officials (another golden opportunity to say 'no' to people). As I mentioned, one of the stated purposes of licensing and documentation has always been to prove ownership, but that function simply goes out the window if you can't verify it. Imagine buying a house without the opportunity to search title.

David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV


David Weatherston
Towser, Toronto
C&C 27 Mk IV

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#3 2004-11-23 09:56:34

Guest

Re: Boat ownership history

I contacted South Shore Yachts about this with my boat's registration number and hull number, and they replied, "Yes, we do have the original builder's files in stock. The price is $40.00 Canadian funds plus shipping and applicable taxes."  So I sent them my credit card number and am waiting to see what I get.  I thought all of C&C's original records were destroyed in the big fire that destroyed their factory in Niagra on the Lake.

#4 2004-11-24 00:50:14

KenPole
Member

Re: Boat ownership history

I'd be interested in what's in the file (generally) you have ordered from SSY. I know who the previous two owners of my Mark III are but can't find the original. Cheers.
 
Ken Pole
Santiva
Ottawa


Ken Pole, Ottawa
1975 Mark III Santiva

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#5 2004-11-27 02:46:15

Guest

Re: Boat ownership history

If you have success in tracking down your boat's information through South Shore and are satisfied with their response, please let me the forum know, as it would be worth the expense to get good information.  Thanks, Charlie Sheets, Sea Robin, MKII

#6 2004-12-16 13:26:32

Guest

Re: Boat ownership history

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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">ew Roman" size=3>I received an information package from South Shore Yachts today.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>This contained a file folder about ½” thick, containing all the original (not copies) C&C paperwork for the ordering and construction of my boat.o-spacerun: yes">  (C&C 27 MkV Hull #75, Heatwave)  </SPAN>Apparently, this was not destroyed in the fire.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>I have no idea how SSY got hold of this paperwork or why they kept it for so long.  They may have similar stuff for other boats.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">ew Roman" size=3>From the ordering information, I am able to tell the original purchaser’s name, how much he paid (almost $30,000 in 1985 dollars!), and all the options that were available and which were ordered and their prices (including the “Smoke” racing package).o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>From the construction documents I am able to tell in great detail what went into the boat, in some cases down to the individual screws and washers.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Many part descriptions include original Schafer, Harken and Merriam part numbers, and even details like the length and colour of every wire and length and type of every hose on the boat.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Some of this information may come in handy when replacing worn out parts.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Much of this paperwork is hand –written, highly redundant and even sometimes contradictory.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>But it makes interesting reading if you are really interested in your boat.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>I even got bits of 20-year old masking tape sticking pages together.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>All-in-all, a blast from the past.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>For a total cost of about $55, I think I got my money’s worth.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">ew Roman" size=3>In terms of ownership history, I now know the original purchaser and the previous owner to me.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>What happened in between is still a mystery.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>However, from the old PHRF certificates I found on the boat, I know the boat was raced at Whitby Yacht Club for a number of years.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>WYC has a racing history archive on their Web site, and I can see the boat's racing results for years around 1998-2000.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>This is confirmed by boat name and sail number.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>The boat did fairly well in those years (averaging around third place), but I did better this past summer racing at Lakeshore Yacht Club – 9 flags and two trophies.o-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>(Sorry, I couldn’t resist a little bragging; it was my first season racing.)
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Times New Roman">Bob.
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