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#1 2006-03-11 05:00:46

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Rudder Split

Well just got back from the boat yard and noticed my rudder has split wide open. Any ideas or recomendations as to who would be the best to complete such a repair. I am fortinunate that I can dig the ground to remove it and take it to the repair shop. I live in Burlington Ont.
ps has this happened to others and what was the bill to repair????

Thanks

Terry (Satori)

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#2 2006-03-11 23:08:38

c&c27dyc
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Re: Rudder Split

Have a look at Hyperion - Black Arts - and - as a second note, I drill 2 holes in all my rudders.  1 top / 1 bottom, plug them with a bolt and silicone and at the end of the season, take the bolts out and if for any reason water did get in, it drains and dries out during the lay-up.  Dean.<IMG src="http://www.cc27association.com/f3/toast/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif" border=0>
Dean M Baldwin
Morgan "D"
Mark III - Hull 516
Halifax, N.S.


Dean M Baldwin
Morgan "D"
Mark III - Hull 516
North Sydney, N.S.

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#3 2006-03-12 00:59:02

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Re: Rudder Split

Sounds like there was water in the rudder which has subsequently froze causing the split.
What model C&C 27 do you have?
I have a Mark 2 rudder available as a result of retrofitting a later model rudder to my Mark 2. It is in good shape and is located in Burlington Ontario.
If you search the forums back 3 0r 4 months you will find my posting for this rudder.
Bob Honsberger   905-333-0665
Former owner of Hull #322   "Budge"

#4 2006-03-12 07:21:47

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Re: Rudder Split

It is a mark 3. What is the differance between the 2 and 3?
I also live in Burlington

#5 2006-03-12 09:13:11

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Re: Rudder Split

Refer to "Guides to Marks" which has photos of the rudder variations on the MK1/2  compared to the 3/4 models.
The Mk1/2 rudder would fit&nbsp<img src="emoticons/icon_frown.gif">in a pinch) the 3/4 but you will not achieve the performance that the original model provides.
Bob Honsberger
Former owner of hull#322 "Budge"

#6 2006-03-14 06:12:34

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Re: Rudder Split

As pointed out below the split was caused by water freezing in the rudder cavity.  Drilling holes in the bottom of the rudder every fall will look after the problem.  The water seems to get in around the shaft at the top of the rudder as it works in high stress situations.  I dropped my rudder a few inches and routed out a groove around the shaft and put in Sikkaflex.  This has all but eliminated any water getting in.

#7 2006-04-07 20:43:13

c&c27dyc
Member

Re: Rudder Split

Hi, as stated above, I have already drilled by holes and am now cutting a grove around the column - is Sikkaflex a brand name for something else or is this the actual compound name.  Thanks, Dean.
Dean M Baldwin
Morgan "D"
Mark III - Hull 516
Halifax, N.S.


Dean M Baldwin
Morgan "D"
Mark III - Hull 516
North Sydney, N.S.

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#8 2006-04-08 11:58:34

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Re: Rudder Split

Hello:
Possible resource:
Phil's Foils in Ottawa (I'm not Phil, by the way...)
http://www.philsfoils.com/
Chuck Lanning
Ottawa

#9 2006-04-18 08:28:41

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Re: Rudder Split

«Sikkaflex» (Which is properly written «Sikaflex» is a polyuretane base adhesive made by the «Sika Group», and available in most marine stores in Canada, Usa and even Europe and South MAerica.  The Sika Group makes tohres adhesives and cement for the buikding industry, that do not have the same properties as that of Sikaflex, which is the product used in the boating in dustry.  The product exists in many formula, each being adapted for a specific use.  Information can be found in marine supply stores or in the Internet at the following site:
<A href="http://www.sika.ca/">http://www.sika.ca</A>
In my own experience, theese products give excellent results... if chosen and used properly!  For example, if you want a permanent bond between two pieces of your boat, use the products that will give you that, but never ever try to separate the pieces again, unless you really want to be in deep trouble!  But there are Sikaflex products that will bond and seal a joint securely, but will eventually allow future separation of the parts that have been «glued» together with it.
Conclusion: Carefully read the description of all the available products before choosing and using one!  And good luck with your rudder for next winter! The little holes trick worked really good for me too!
Gilles Péloquin, C&C 27 «Passion», based in Québec and sailed on Lake Champlain

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