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The brown substance you found sounds like it could be the by-product of "balsa-core" deteoration,due to "moisture"getting into the deck from "somewhere".
I'd take a close look at your deck fittings in the area, ie: base of mast fittings, any line organizers, but especially the "mini stay" deck fitting as its almost directly over where you found the dripping. I haven't found a MKV yet that has a "tight" fit here.............The bracket is just held with 4 screws, and any I've looked at (including my own) are surrounded by stress cracks........hense a water path to the balsa core and eventual "delamination" of the area.................................Good luck (Canadian Warren)
[The portion of this and following posts that is devoted to a discussion of batteries deserves its own thread and has been moved.]
Warren............(Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez one of us is going to have to do a "name change", must be awfull confusing to other readers don't you think?)
I've been "psyching" myself up (I'm just your average "screw turner")to do the fuel tank removal /flush shortly as temps and snow permit, will also "warm up hoses" as you suggest as they all look "original" but are in fine shape except for 17 years of "use/lack of use" and therefore some hardening from age. Hopefully I will be able to reuse them if not too brittle.
Look forward to any and all replies..................Snowing now and expecting 5-15 cms (that's 2-6 inched for you guys in the south)..............Warren
Rick...............we will have to compare notes as I get more accustomed to this boat during the coming season (I still have lots to learn about it's pro's/con's). .........................Regards Warren.
PS...........Do you use a trailer for your boat? I have a tandem trailer, I'm hoping to be able to launch/ retrieve without too much trouble, but would sure like to talk to others about their experiences with the Wave.
Warren, Dave..................thanks again for the tips..............Warren
Warren , I liked all your suggestions.
I took a good look at my engine compartment yesterday(temp actually got above freezing during the day), crawled down into the starboard locker, put my left leg behind my right ear and sat on my right leg(was actually quite comfortable, until both legs went to sleep).
My fuel tank is a cube measuring about 18'' on all sides (10 gal US). It's 1/2 full (if gauge correct), and held in place by 3 self tapping screws through a tab at the front and the same arrangement at the rear.
I figure I could just disconnect the 4 hoses at the top(1 fuel fill, 1 vent, 1 fuel pump feed, 1 return feed) as well as the wires to the gauge sensor and simply remove the whole thing fuel and all. This way I could "rince and shake" several times to make sure all/any crude comes out. This will also now give me "room" to scrub and repaint the battery box area as well as the fuel tank area (lots of mold/mildew stains/ spilled oil stains etc.)
Is there any problem with leaving the fuel in the tank as I remove it? I won't be using any power tools or trouble lights.............it just looks like it will be fairly straight forward except for a little "grunt work".
My only other concern is that it's still sooooo cold here. The black fuel hoses are "awful hard".........I'm afraid they may just "crack" if I try to force them off their respective fittings just let, but if I wait for another 2-3 weeks I should be "ok"
Warren
Mike/Cameron/Warren.................thanks "again" for your very helpful advice!!!! You were correct, Torresen Marine has a complete "M12" manual on their web site. I've just printed it..............it will make interesting reading tonite with the fireplace going and the wind and snow howling outside. ................gonna grab my parka now and head over to the boat and shovel some more snow off the deck.
I'll probably have more questions when I return..................Thanks again Warren
Looking forward to using my trailerable MKV (wing keel/wave) with it's 2'11'' draft.
Just curious if any other readers have trailer/launch experience(horror stories or pleasant stories) with this model of C&C 27 ..............Warren
I will be taking delivery of my newly purchased 1988 MKV (aka Wave) soon (signed deal in Jan, had it surveyed, but no way to test engine),(its buried amongst numerous other boats on cradles at the previous owners club) and I would appreciate any advice on the following concerns...... I should point out that the boat I've purchased has probably suffered from more "lack of use" rather than "abuse" ( ie yard mechanic says he only saw the boat used once/twice all last season).............. also little in the way of paperwork or manuals came with boat.
1)My engine is a Universal M12 (2 cylinder /12hp). I've searched the web,but can't seem to find any manuals for this engine ............buts lots for Westerbeck/Atomic 4 etc................any ideas on where to look /buy one would be a great help.
I want to know the correct start/stop/shifting procedures, as well as correct winter protection plan and spring launch procedures to follow..........I thing previous owner just told the yard staff "fix it and send him the bill"..............but for me "I'm the kind of guy that DOSEN'T LIKE surprises"...........although I'm not a mechanic, I just like the peace of mind in knowing what/where every wire/ nut and bolt go and what they do!!!!
2) After reading with great interest, all of the posts here,(its been a great learning experience by the way), I'm now very concerned about things on this boat that have not been tended to as I think they should have.
On my visit to "check" the boat last week (its tented) I noticed the fuel gauge says 1/2 full. From your articles, condensation comes to mind!!! Is there a procedure to drain /clean the tank to make 100% it's going to be reliable going forward......not sure I want to rely on any of the previous owners comments.I suspect the fuel is quite old given that the yard mechanic says about last summers usage
This is my first experience with an inboard, a diesel, and a C&C, and I want this to be a POSITIVE summer experience. I don't need the "surprise" of being stuck on Lake Ontario or in the swift current of the Thousand Islands with NO engine when "I need it the most"......................Thanks to everyone - Warren
PS: My previous boat was a CS-22.....I'm 6'1", and just got tired of "walking on my knees" in the cabin.............
Clare and Cameron .......Thankyou for your quick responses and advice.......Warren
Two questions:
I've just purchased a 1988 MKV and was wondering if anyone was aware of any procedure to raise/lower the mast my any means other than the derek device usually found at most sailing clubs?
I have a "wing keel" trailerable model and would like to trailer the boat to various loations such as the Thousand Islands and Georgian Bay, and would like to know if there is a way to raise the mast by myself without having to rely on any external apparatus in a remote area.
Second question, would any of our menbers have any information on the original sail dimensions for the "stock sails" on a MKV?
My boat comes with an original main and a very tired looking 140 gennie. I would like to have a working jib made up and possibly replace the gennie at some point but I dont trust the current gennie as being "correct" for my boat, so I'm reluctant to use it as a "pattern" for a replacement until I'm sure it's an accurate model size.
Also what grade of fabric was used on our original sails?
Any help would be most appreciated...........Warren, Toronto /Canada
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